{"id":45008,"date":"2025-11-26T20:09:29","date_gmt":"2025-11-27T02:09:29","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=45008"},"modified":"2025-11-26T20:09:32","modified_gmt":"2025-11-27T02:09:32","slug":"podcast-397-debunking-wes-huffs-viral-trinity-moment-with-michael-temperato","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-397-debunking-wes-huffs-viral-trinity-moment-with-michael-temperato\/","title":{"rendered":"podcast 397 &#8211; Debunking Wes Huff&#8217;s Viral Trinity Moment with Michael Temperato"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_7597\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-45008-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities397.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities397.mp3\">https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities397.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities397.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=45008-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities397.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"trinities397.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7FuUF9DZM3zhtN41n6RJ6l\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p><div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignright size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"581\" src=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/debunking-Wes-1024x581.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-45009\" style=\"width:496px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/debunking-Wes-1024x581.png 1024w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/debunking-Wes-450x255.png 450w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/debunking-Wes-768x436.png 768w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/debunking-Wes.png 1054w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A befuddled student asked apologist <strong>Wes Huff about how to make sense of the Trinity<\/strong>.<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Hv3YNGSE2tY&amp;t=1s&amp;pp=ygUQd2VzIGh1ZmYgdHJpbml0eQ%3D%3D\"> Huff&#8217;s answer<\/a> has gone viral (also <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/0sELKrgaEbo?si=vgb947iqverr70Dn\">here <\/a>and <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/L6tXWxmuICg?si=kMICCn8GI_8x5wje\">here<\/a>).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Obviously, Christians are enjoying and sharing Huff&#8217;s answer. <strong>But how helpful of an answer is it? <\/strong>Is this an answer that is going to help a thinking Christian love God with all her mind? Does it point her to the relevant biblical teachings?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Unfortunately, as Michael and I explain, for a number of reasons Huff&#8217;s answer is <em>not <\/em>helpful to the informed, Scripture-loving truth-seeker. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Just after the 48 minutes mark (52 minutes in the video below) <strong>I challenge Wes Huff to a debate on whether the one God in the New Testament or the Father alone. <\/strong>For <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/zfihScZhDbA?si=VTB10JTVl44LCYdw\">these reasons<\/a>, he probably will not debate me. But the Christian public who relies on Huff&#8217;s Trinity &#8220;answers&#8221; needs some better information, and to hear the unitarian Christian side of the case. If he does decide to accept the challenge, here is my recently updated <a href=\"http:\/\/Debating Dale Starter Pack\">starter pack<\/a> for understanding my views.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As we recorded this video, I thought that <strong>perhaps it&#8217;s unfair<\/strong> to critique Huff&#8217;s Trinity thoughts based on an off-the-cuff answer. So in the <strong>next two episodes<\/strong> I&#8217;m going to interact with two other videos where he states his views at length and fully rehearsed. Perhaps those will fare better?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Here&#8217;s the video version:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<div class=\"nv-iframe-embed\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Debunking Wes Huff Viral Trinity Moment LIVE with Dr. Dale Tuggy\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/6Ipw3TUSVyE?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Links for this episode:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignright size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"485\" height=\"763\" src=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/what-is-the-trinity-by-dale-tuggy-8.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-45013\" style=\"width:357px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/what-is-the-trinity-by-dale-tuggy-8.png 485w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/what-is-the-trinity-by-dale-tuggy-8-286x450.png 286w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 485px) 100vw, 485px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Michael Temperato&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@metaphysicsmike\">YouTube<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tiktok.com\/@metaphysicsmike\">Tiktok<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/MetaphysicsMike\/\">Instagram<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Tuggy, <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.what-is-the-trinity.com\/\">What is the Trinity?<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/entries\/trinity\/\">Stanford Encyclopedia, &#8220;Trinity&#8221;<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=DZk2BA2v9kk\">What Would It Take To Convert You Back To Trinitarianism? ?<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/podtail.com\/en\/podcast\/the-reluctant-theologian-podcast\/ep-164-the-trinity-with-william-lane-craig\/\">R. T. Mullins&#8217;s interview of William Lane Craig on his own Trinity theory<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Gaston, <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Dynamic-Monarchianism-Thomas-Edmund-Gaston\/dp\/173757831X\">Dynamic Monarchianism: The Earliest Christology?<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@UnitarianChristianAlliance\"><strong>Unitarian Christian Alliance Youtube channel<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.unitarianchristianalliance.org\/\">Unitarian Christian Alliance<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/book.venue.life\/tops\/register\/34457-uca-australia-2026\">Unitarian Christian Alliance &#8211; Conference near Sydney, Australia, March 2026<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-137-daniel-whitbys-mystery-and-revelation-inconsistent\/\">podcast 137 \u2013 Daniel Whitby\u2019s \u201cMystery and Revelation Inconsistent\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=VyC_gx_Qxzw\">The Bodies of God and the World of Ancient Israel &#8211; Dale Tuggy, Benjamin D. Sommer<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignright size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"279\" height=\"445\" src=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/mcintosh-book.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-45017\" style=\"width:327px;height:auto\"\/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/entries\/trinity\/trinity-history.html#GreNys\">on Gregory of Nyssa&#8217;s <em>On Not Three Gods<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-302-the-stages-of-trinitarian-commitment\/\"><strong>podcast 302 \u2013 The Stages of Trinitarian Commitment<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-262-the-trinity-before-nicea\/\">podcast 262 \u2013 The Trinity before Nicaea?<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-249-tuggy-vs-brown-debate-the-god-of-the-bible-is-the-father-alone\/\">podcast 249 \u2013 Tuggy vs. Brown debate \u2013 The God of the Bible is the Father alone<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">McIntosh, ed. <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Three-Persons-Four-Views-Philosophical\/dp\/1666719056\">One God, Three Persons, Four Views<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-388-yes-the-trinity-is-a-problem-part-2\/\">podcast 388 \u2013 Yes, \u201cthe Trinity\u201d is a Problem \u2013 Part 2<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-387-yes-the-trinity-is-a-problem-part-1\/\">podcast 387 \u2013 Yes, \u201cthe Trinity\u201d is a Problem \u2013 Part 1<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/the-standard-opening-move\/\">The Standard Opening Move<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/Xgd7QNiX-ts?si=EGOjvn0YtecTbqQN\">Why I&#8217;m Not a Buddhist &#8211; 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