{"id":4897,"date":"2013-09-02T09:39:53","date_gmt":"2013-09-02T13:39:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=4897"},"modified":"2016-03-17T20:07:46","modified_gmt":"2016-03-18T00:07:46","slug":"podcast-3-making-abelard-cry","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-3-making-abelard-cry\/","title":{"rendered":"podcast 3 &#8211; making Abelard cry"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_631\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-4897-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities003.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities003.mp3\">http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities003.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities003.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=4897-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities003.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"trinities003.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7FuUF9DZM3zhtN41n6RJ6l\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p><p><object width=\"560\" height=\"315\" classid=\"clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000\" codebase=\"http:\/\/download.macromedia.com\/pub\/shockwave\/cabs\/flash\/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0\"><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\" \/><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"always\" \/><param name=\"src\" value=\"\/\/www.youtube-nocookie.com\/v\/SGyOaCXr8Lw?hl=en_US&amp;version=3&amp;rel=0\" \/><param name=\"allowfullscreen\" value=\"true\" \/><embed width=\"560\" height=\"315\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" src=\"\/\/www.youtube-nocookie.com\/v\/SGyOaCXr8Lw?hl=en_US&amp;version=3&amp;rel=0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" allowscriptaccess=\"always\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" \/><\/object><br \/>\nIn this episode:<strong> an interesting historical episode<\/strong> relating to the &#8220;<a title=\"episode 2 - the &quot;Athanasian Creed&quot;\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/archives\/4892\" target=\"_blank\">Athanasian Creed<\/a>.&#8221; It makes a grown man cry.<\/p>\n<p>This creed really &#8220;<strong>starts up<\/strong>&#8221; Christian philosophers; surely, a distinction here, a distinction there, and the appearance of contradiction can be chased away. <em>But<\/em>, our efforts are not always appreciated, as Abelard learns in the year 1121.<\/p>\n<p>This episode incorporates part of Abelard&#8217;s famous <em>History of My Calamities<\/em>. Thanks to my colleague B. for voicing \u00a0Abelard.<\/p>\n<p>You can also <strong>listen t<\/strong><strong>o this episode on<\/strong>\u00a0<strong><a title=\"trinities podcast @ stitcher\" href=\"http:\/\/www.stitcher.com\/s?fid=54067&amp;refid=stpr\" target=\"_blank\">Stitcher<\/a><\/strong>\u00a0or\u00a0<strong><a title=\"trinities @ itunes\" href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/id690304581?mt=2&amp;uo=4&amp;at=11l5XS\" target=\"_blank\">iTunes<\/a>\u00a0(please subscribe, rate, and review<\/strong>\u00a0us in either or both \u2013 <strong><a title=\"how to rate us at iTunes and Stitcher\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/review\/\" target=\"_blank\">directions here<\/a><\/strong>). It is also available on\u00a0<a title=\"trinities podcast youtube playlist\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/playlist?list=PLMCt15e8gG-g7t7wo9MCq9KSDSsvGNcsm\" target=\"_blank\">YouTube <\/a>(scroll down \u2013 you can\u00a0<a title=\"youtube subscription link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/user\/khanpadawan?sub_confirmation=1\" target=\"_blank\">subscribe here<\/a>). If you would like to\u00a0<strong>upload audio feedback<\/strong> for possible inclusion in a future episode of this podcast,\u00a0<a title=\"upload audio feedback for the trinities podcast here\" href=\"http:\/\/www.mediafire.com\/filedrop\/filedrop_hosted.php?drop=96df5ea43b9b7c6582cb95b8c5a7259d7cd8109e0cd009d4a5ecd099cc7e64fb\" target=\"_blank\">put the audio file here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>You can <strong>support the trinities podcast by ordering anything through Amazon.com<\/strong> after clicking through one of our links. We get a small % of your purchase, even though your price is n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-6812\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/peter-abelard.jpg\" alt=\"peter abelard\" width=\"395\" height=\"528\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/peter-abelard.jpg 485w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/peter-abelard-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/peter-abelard-420x561.jpg 420w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/peter-abelard-460x615.jpg 460w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/peter-abelard-90x120.jpg 90w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 395px) 100vw, 395px\" \/>ot increased. (If you see \u201ctrinities\u201d in you\u00a0url while at Amazon, then we\u2019ll get it.)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Links for this episode:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a title=\"Richard Cartwright page at MIT\" href=\"http:\/\/www.mit.edu\/~philos\/cartwright.html\" target=\"_blank\">Richard Cartwright<\/a>, and his<strong> &#8220;<a title=\"Cartwright's article on the Trinity\" href=\"http:\/\/eyring.hplx.net\/Eyring\/Notes\/trinity.html\" target=\"_blank\">On the Logical Problem of the Trinity<\/a>&#8220;<\/strong><\/li>\n<li>The <a title=\"post on the parrot quote\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/archives\/362\" target=\"_blank\">quote<\/a> from Wissowatius<\/li>\n<li>Abelard&#8217;s entire <a title=\"Historia Calamitatum\" href=\"http:\/\/www.gutenberg.org\/ebooks\/14268\" target=\"_blank\"><em>History of My Calamities<\/em><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Peter Abelard entry at the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy\" href=\"http:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/entries\/abelard\/\" target=\"_blank\">&#8220;Peter Abelard<\/a>&#8221; at the <em>Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy<\/em><\/li>\n<li>Clanchy&#8217;s <a title=\"Clanchy's biography of Abelard\" href=\"http:\/\/astore.amazon.com\/trinities-20\/detail\/0631214445\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Abelard: A Medieval Life<\/em><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Jeff Brower's home page\" href=\"http:\/\/web.ics.purdue.edu\/~brower\/\" target=\"_blank\">Brower<\/a> and Guilfoy (eds.) <a title=\"Cambridge Companion to Abelard\" href=\"http:\/\/astore.amazon.com\/trinities-20\/detail\/0521775965\" target=\"_blank\"><em>The Cambridge Companion to Abelard<\/em><\/a> and Brower&#8217;s exposition of <a title=\"Brower chapter - Abelard on the Trinity\" href=\"http:\/\/web.ics.purdue.edu\/~brower\/Papers\/Abelard%20on%20Trinity.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">Abelard on the Trinity<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Mews&#8217;s <a title=\"Mews, Abelard and Heloise\" href=\"http:\/\/astore.amazon.com\/trinities-20\/detail\/0195156897\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Abelard and Heloise<\/em> <\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In this episode: an interesting historical episode relating to the &#8220;Athanasian Creed.&#8221; It makes a grown man cry. This creed really &#8220;starts up&#8221; Christian philosophers; surely, a distinction here, a distinction there, and the appearance of contradiction can be chased away. But, our efforts are not always appreciated, as Abelard learns in the year 1121.&hellip;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-3-making-abelard-cry\/\" rel=\"bookmark\">Read More &raquo;<span class=\"screen-reader-text\">podcast 3 &#8211; making Abelard cry<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":6812,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[58,4,14,9,57,36],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4897","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-creeds","category-heresy-orthodoxy","category-history","category-philosophy","category-podcast","category-stories"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4897","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4897"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4897\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":36512,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4897\/revisions\/36512"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/6812"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4897"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4897"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4897"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}