{"id":5313,"date":"2013-11-23T20:37:31","date_gmt":"2013-11-24T01:37:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=5313"},"modified":"2013-11-22T20:38:45","modified_gmt":"2013-11-23T01:38:45","slug":"frost-on-trinity-and-scripture","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/frost-on-trinity-and-scripture\/","title":{"rendered":"Frost on Trinity and Scripture"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Open-Book-1024x686.jpg\" alt=\"Open Book\" width=\"1024\" height=\"686\" class=\"alignright size-large wp-image-5316\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Open-Book-1024x686.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Open-Book-300x201.jpg 300w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Open-Book-420x281.jpg 420w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Open-Book-460x308.jpg 460w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Open-Book-90x60.jpg 90w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Open-Book.jpg 1600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/>Lutheran theology grad student Matthew Frost reflects on\u00a0<a title=\"post on the Trinity and scripture\" href=\"http:\/\/parrhesia-lalein.blogspot.com\/2013\/05\/the-doctrine-of-trinity-and-scripture.html\" target=\"_blank\">The Doctrine of the Trinity, and Scripture<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Some insights:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8230;because this doctrine is built on a scriptural foundation, we also have a tendency, in every generation, to read the doctrine as it stands back into the texts on which we have built it. And there&#8217;s a problem with that, namely: none of the authors of scripture, or their immediate communities, ever espoused anything like our doctrine of the Trinity. They all, in their own ways, wrestled with the relation of the Judean god YHWH, who is both Father and Spirit already in the Tanakh, to the man Jesus, the crucified and risen messiah.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&#8220;Scriptural foundation,&#8221; yes&#8230; in part. <\/p>\n<blockquote><p>And there&#8217;s a second problem, namely: we have better knowledge of the texts of scripture today than the Fathers ever did! &#8230;They deserve our reverence, but not our obedience.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>Let scripture, speaking with voices that never knew our orthodoxy, be the constant critic of our theologies.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> That, my friend, is how reformations get started. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Lutheran theology grad student Matthew Frost reflects on\u00a0The Doctrine of the Trinity, and Scripture. Some insights: &#8230;because this doctrine is built on a scriptural foundation, we also have a tendency, in every generation, to read the doctrine as it stands back into the texts on which we have built it. 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