{"id":6451,"date":"2019-11-07T03:24:41","date_gmt":"2019-11-07T09:24:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=6451"},"modified":"2019-11-07T18:45:47","modified_gmt":"2019-11-08T00:45:47","slug":"the-bible-on-another-previous-life-of-jesus","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/the-bible-on-another-previous-life-of-jesus\/","title":{"rendered":"the Bible on another previous life of Jesus"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignleft is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/reincarnation-1024x506.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6452\" width=\"480\" height=\"236\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/reincarnation-1024x506.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/reincarnation-300x148.jpg 300w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/reincarnation-420x208.jpg 420w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/reincarnation-460x227.jpg 460w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/reincarnation-90x44.jpg 90w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/reincarnation.jpg 1600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 480px) 100vw, 480px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As I <strong>proved&nbsp;before<\/strong>, <a title=\"post on David as God in the Bible\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/the-bible-teaches-that-david-is-god\/\" target=\"_blank\">the Bible teaches that King David is God<\/a>, and since it also teaches that Jesus is God, it teaches that Jesus is David &#8211; that was a previous, kingly life of his. In other words, <strong>David was reincarnated as Jesus<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>But I have now discovered that this was not direct<\/strong>! There was at least one other stop on the way from the 10th c. BCE to the 1st c. CE. We need to <strong>re-apply our method<\/strong> of figuring out who is who, using Bible prophecies.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignright\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"254\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/crying-baby-300x254.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6453\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/crying-baby-300x254.jpg 300w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/crying-baby-420x356.jpg 420w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/crying-baby-460x389.jpg 460w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/crying-baby-90x76.jpg 90w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/crying-baby.jpg 900w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Isaiah predicts that a baby will be born, <strong>&#8220;Immanuel.&#8221;<\/strong> This occurs in his lifetime, in the 8th or 7th c. BCE. Obviously, this <strong>baby is God, because his name<\/strong> &#8220;Immanuel&#8221; <em>means<\/em> &#8220;God with us,&#8221; and it would be blasphemous to give that name to anyone other than God. But my point here is that Matthew&nbsp;says that <strong>Jesus&#8217;s birth is a&nbsp;fulfillment<\/strong> of this prediction. (Matthew 1:20-25)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>The &#8220;Immanuel&#8221; in Isaiah 7 is a baby in Isaiah&#8217;s time.<\/li><li>Matthew 1 says that Jesus is a&nbsp;fulfillment of Isaiah 7.<\/li><li>Therefore, the baby Immanuel in Isaiah&#8217;s time and Jesus are one and the same. (That was Jesus back then in Isaiah&#8217;s time.)<\/li><\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Do I deviate here from&#8221;historic Christian orthodoxy&#8221;? <strong>Friend, surely you agree with 1 and 2. And you should agree that 3 follows from them, if you agree with this sort of reasoning in general.<\/strong> As an example:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>When Isaiah says that <strong>&#8220;every knee will bow&#8221;<\/strong>&nbsp;he means, to Yahweh himself. (Isaiah 45:23)<\/li><li>Paul says that &#8220;every knee should&nbsp;bow&#8221; <em>to the exalted Jesus<\/em>, obviously referencing Isaiah. (Philippians 2:10)<\/li><li>Therefore, Jesus is Yahweh himself. (1,2)<\/li><\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Again, we can&#8217;t disagree with 1 or 2. And a good number of <strong>present-day evangelical apologists and theologians assure us that 3 follows<\/strong>. Of course, we&#8217;re assuming that what the Bible teaches is true; Isaiah and Paul are correct in what they write here. Exactly so, with our first argument.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Let&#8217;s not get too caught up in<strong> <em>a priori<\/em> assumptions<\/strong> about &#8220;historic Christian orthodoxy,&#8221; or give in to our western <strong>prejudices<\/strong> against supposedly &#8220;eastern&#8221; ideas like reincarnation. We already know that Jesus can be found all over the Old Testament. Let us, then, <strong>accept the obvious implications of the Bible<\/strong>. Not only is Jesus God (second argument), but he (and so, God) was once a baby in the time of Isaiah. (first argument) A mystery, to be sure, but we are <a title=\"God as a baby\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/god-the-baby-rama-ram-avatar-of-vishnu-reloaded\/\" target=\"_blank\">accustomed to those<\/a>; we <em>expect<\/em> divine revelation to contain mysteries &#8211; this is <em>God<\/em> we&#8217;re dealing with here. As for me, I choose <strong>humility<\/strong> over rationalism. If you&#8217;re really a Christian, you&#8217;ll do likewise. I hope you won&#8217;t mind if I point out that you&#8217;ll have a hard time finding a better model of humility than yours truly.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>(Disclaimer: this post is an illustration of <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/worship-of-jesus-worship-of-god-and-the-fulfillment-fallacy\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">the fulfillment fallacy<\/a>, and is not to be believed!)<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Biblically &#8220;proving&#8221; that David and Jesus are one and the same.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":6452,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"default","neve_meta_container":"default","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"off","neve_meta_content_width":70,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"off","neve_meta_disable_footer":"off","neve_meta_disable_title":"off","footnotes":""},"categories":[37,21,15,4,45,33,20,3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6451","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-apologetics","category-bible","category-christology","category-heresy-orthodoxy","category-hinduism","category-incarnation","category-mystery","category-theories"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6451","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=6451"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6451\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":41941,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6451\/revisions\/41941"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/6452"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=6451"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=6451"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=6451"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}