{"id":6464,"date":"2014-09-15T14:12:15","date_gmt":"2014-09-15T18:12:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=6464"},"modified":"2016-03-17T11:04:47","modified_gmt":"2016-03-17T15:04:47","slug":"podcast-53-john-lockes-the-reasonableness-of-christianity-part-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-53-john-lockes-the-reasonableness-of-christianity-part-2\/","title":{"rendered":"podcast 53 &#8211; John Locke&#8217;s The Reasonableness of Christianity, Part 2"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_3443\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-6464-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities053.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities053.mp3\">http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities053.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities053.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=6464-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities053.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"trinities053.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7FuUF9DZM3zhtN41n6RJ6l\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p><p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-6465\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/john-locke-younger-in-wig.jpg\" alt=\"john-locke younger, in wig\" width=\"551\" height=\"310\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/john-locke-younger-in-wig.jpg 620w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/john-locke-younger-in-wig-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/john-locke-younger-in-wig-420x236.jpg 420w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/john-locke-younger-in-wig-460x259.jpg 460w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/john-locke-younger-in-wig-90x51.jpg 90w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 551px) 100vw, 551px\" \/>This week I start with<strong> a long and insightful\u00a0listener comment<\/strong>. Among other things, he asks how one&#8217;s theology as unitarian or trinitarian affect <strong>one&#8217;s discipleship<\/strong>, or how one follows Jesus as Lord. I give a short answer from my own experience here, confessing\u00a0how <strong>my own confusions<\/strong> hindered my spiritual life.<\/p>\n<p>The listener also asks:<strong> doesn&#8217;t Locke require too little?<\/strong>\u00a0In particular, mustn&#8217;t a Christian also, minimally, believe <strong>that Jesus was raised from the dead<\/strong>, and that he is now ruling as <strong>Lord<\/strong>?<\/p>\n<p>I argue that Locke, correctly, thinks that belief in Jesus as Messiah<strong> implies those beliefs<\/strong> as well, and I argue that he doesn&#8217;t properly separate matters of <em><strong>belief<\/strong> <\/em>(to what one must be committed in one&#8217;s mind) from the issue of <strong><em>confession <\/em><\/strong>(what one must be willing to sincerely and publicly assert). Of course, to sincerely confess Jesus as Lord (or as Messiah) requires having certain beliefs, and I go through a long, and surely\u00a0not exhaustive list of those here. Then we briefly compare this list to the famous &#8220;Apostles&#8217; Creed&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>Finally, we hear<strong> more from Locke, including the last portion of <a title=\"part 1\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/archives\/6408\" target=\"_blank\">his book<\/a><\/strong>, a well-crafted plea that we should believe that God must have revealed<em> as required for salvation<\/em> only beliefs which ordinary folk are capable of understanding, and so, believing.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Next week, we&#8217;ll hear the very words of Locke&#8217;s vehement critic, the Calvinist Anglican divine John Edwards<\/strong>. (1637-1716) We&#8217;ll also hear a little of Locke&#8217;s replies.<\/p>\n<p>You can also listen to <strong><a title=\"episode 53 on youtube\" href=\"http:\/\/youtu.be\/FLB8jTYIENk\" target=\"_blank\">this episode on youtub<\/a>e<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Links for this episode:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a title=\"episode 52\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/archives\/6408\" target=\"_blank\">Part 1 &#8211; podcast episode 52<\/a><\/li>\n<li>My main <a title=\"Negative Mysterianism about the Trinity\" href=\"http:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/entries\/trinity\/#Mys\" target=\"_blank\">discussion of &#8220;<strong>negative mysterianism<\/strong>&#8220;<\/a> about the Trinity. (See also <a title=\"Comments on &quot;Pro-Nicene&quot; theology.\" href=\"http:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/entries\/trinity\/trinity-history.html#ProNicCon\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>.)<\/li>\n<li>A <a title=\"post on negative mysterianism\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/archives\/1246\" target=\"_blank\">previous post on the negative mysterian<\/a> approach to the Trinity.<\/li>\n<li>podcast<a title=\"trinities podcast episode 12 - the Apostles's Creed\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/archives\/5103\" target=\"_blank\"> episode 12, on the &#8220;<strong>Apostles&#8217;s creed<\/strong>&#8220;<\/a><\/li>\n<li>my<a title=\"trinities podcast episodes 27 and 28 with Bill Hasker\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?s=hasker+tripersonal\" target=\"_blank\"> interviews with William Hasker<\/a><\/li>\n<li>my <a title=\"episodes 42 and 43, with theologian Dr. Stephen Holmes\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?s=dr.+stephen+holmes\" target=\"_blank\">interviews with Stephen Holmes<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This week I start with a long and insightful\u00a0listener comment. Among other things, he asks how one&#8217;s theology as unitarian or trinitarian affect one&#8217;s discipleship, or how one follows Jesus as Lord. I give a short answer from my own experience here, confessing\u00a0how my own confusions hindered my spiritual life. The listener also asks: doesn&#8217;t&hellip;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-53-john-lockes-the-reasonableness-of-christianity-part-2\/\" rel=\"bookmark\">Read More &raquo;<span class=\"screen-reader-text\">podcast 53 &#8211; John Locke&#8217;s The Reasonableness of Christianity, Part 2<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":6465,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[37,21,15,58,4,20,9,57,13,3,43],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6464","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-apologetics","category-bible","category-christology","category-creeds","category-heresy-orthodoxy","category-mystery","category-philosophy","category-podcast","category-theologians","category-theories","category-unitarianism"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6464","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=6464"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6464\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":37195,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6464\/revisions\/37195"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/6465"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=6464"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=6464"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=6464"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}