{"id":840,"date":"2012-04-19T08:36:25","date_gmt":"2012-04-19T12:36:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=840"},"modified":"2012-04-19T12:50:32","modified_gmt":"2012-04-19T16:50:32","slug":"sabellianism-reconsidered-considered-part-6-dale","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/sabellianism-reconsidered-considered-part-6-dale\/","title":{"rendered":"“Sabellianism Reconsidered” Considered – Part 6 (Dale)"},"content":{"rendered":"

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Switchfoot “are one”. But they are really just five dudes, not one.<\/em><\/small><\/p>\n

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Baber observes,<\/p>\n

Typically, aggregates of Fs are not themselves Fs.<\/strong> A collection of cats is not itself a cat… an aggregation of persons is not a person. (p. 7, emphasis added)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Still, she thinks this needn’t preclude three gods from themselves being a god. Some sorts of things, it seems, can have other things of that same sort for parts<\/strong>, such as a Sierpinski Triangle<\/a>. (p. 10) Maybe, then, gods are more like triangles like cats, in that groups of god can be (temporal) parts of a god. At least, we can’t rule out that this is possible.<\/p>\n

How many temporal parts does God, on this theory have?<\/strong> There’s no reason to think it is exactly three. Why not a part at each second of time? Why not a part lasting, e.g. for the year 412 CE? How many temporal parts, each of which is a god, are we talking about? Evidently, more than billions, not merely three. But, Baber, says, not all of these part will count as persons of the Trinity.<\/p>\n

…at any given time, we count Gods by occurrent stages [i.e. by how many God-stages exist at that time]. And there is no reason why some individuals that figure in [God’s] history should not count as Persons while others do not. (p. 8)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Thus, she concludes that her fourth requirement has been met – that the Trinity, the threesome of divine Persons “is God”. (pp. 8,\u00a0 2) She concludes that the “Sabellian” theory we’ve outlined in this series<\/a> is “a minimally decent doctrine of the Trinity.” (p.11)<\/p>\n

Next time: theological objections.<\/em>\"\"<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Switchfoot “are one”. But they are really just five dudes, not one. Baber observes, Typically, aggregates of Fs are not themselves Fs. A collection of cats is not itself a cat… an aggregation of persons is not a person. (p. 7, emphasis added) Still, she thinks this needn’t preclude three gods from themselves being a… Read More »“Sabellianism Reconsidered” Considered – Part 6 (Dale)<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[5,38,9,13],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-840","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-modalism","category-monotheism","category-philosophy","category-theologians"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/840","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=840"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/840\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3745,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/840\/revisions\/3745"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=840"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=840"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=840"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}