You tell ’em, Joe.
An interesting post & discussion:
Alexander Pruss’s Blog: Liberal theology
I think a lot of liberal theologians don’t have a “high view of reason” – many (not all) of them strike me as lazy drifters on miscellaneous intellectual currents. e.g. Has anyone’s reason really revealed to them, so to speak, that miracles don’t happen, or even that it’s irrational to believe they have happened? Smug assuming, faker arguments (“Surely, in the age of the radio and lightbulbs… blah, blah) and hunkering down with one’s intellectual homies is usual the way here, or so it seems to me. Maybe he’s using “reason” more loosely than I am – where reason telling me P just means something like: I thought about it, and it seems to me that P.
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“Even more so in fact, because any usual human being who claims exclusive proprietry ownership of “god”, as many/most/all of those on the “right” do are full of hubristic self-delusions.”
Dear Sue,
Does any particle physicist claim “exclusive proprietary ownership” of the standard model? Does any environmental activist claim “exclusive proprietary ownership” of the Earth? Does any historian claim “exclusive proprietary ownership” of the Battle of Waterloo?
Your statement that many people on the internet are “full of hubristic self-delusions” seems to apply here, particularly with regards to yourself. No person I know has made the claim of “exclusive proprietary ownership” of God. It seems to me, and correct me if I’m wrong, that you are simply putting words into people’s mouths and assessing people’s opinions and views based on your own prejudices rather than the actual opinions and views themselves.
Since when did holding to a particular view, be that political, theological, scientific, social, or any other subject under the sun, become a claim to “exclusive proprietary ownership”? Please save your snide rhetoric for elsewhere on the internet.
“Even more so if you consider the usual Christian presumption that we are inherently “fallen” or sinful, and cant really know anything about god.”
Goodness, no. Please tell me, Sue, who has EVER made the claim that “can’t really know anything about god”?
Please think about what you just said, Sue. Think about it for a moment. If Christians really believed that “we can’t really know anything about god,” then what would be the whole point of evangelism? What would be the whole point of theology? What would be the whole point of revelation, both special and general?
You are really starting to sound like you have never examined the views you criticize at all.
In my ample wanderings around the blogosphere it has become completely obvious to me that those on the “right” of the culture wars divide, and who make a big deal about so called “reason” are just as full of double-minded yes/no/maybe hypocracies as any one else.
Even more so in fact, because any usual human being who claims exclusive proprietry ownership of “god” ,as many/most/all of those on the “right” do are full of hubristic self-delusions.
Even more so if you consider the usual Christian presumption that we are inherently “fallen” or sinful, and cant really know anything about god.
How then can a “fallen”/sinful human really claim to speak with any kind of (dogmatic) certainty about God.
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