It has occurred to me that many readers, especially new readers, may misread my ongoing discussion of modalism and modalists.
As I use the term “modalism”, it is a descriptive term for how some people think about one or more of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Most people, though, use it as a tag for a certain heretical theology, long denounced by mainstream Christianity. For them, the term “modalism” is evaluative as well – it implies that the person is mistaken, or at least theologically out of bounds.
What gives? Why am I using the term this way? Because it is helpful, in understanding different views about the Trinity, to give descriptive (and if possible, neutral) names to different views. Doing this, we can classify them, object to them in different ways, and decide which we think is true. It is just a method of sober thinking. Now “modalism” obviously doesn’t have completely neutral connotations, but I’m still using it as it seems apt, and I can’t think of a better term. I just have to signal that I’m using it somewhat outside the normal meaning.
So when I call someone a “modalist”, I’m not calling them a heretic, or even thereby implying that their doctrine is false or unjustified. I’m just saying, that they think that one or more members of the Trinity are identical to God or modes of God. I may go on to argue against their claim, but the label itself carries no argument or even judgment.
I’m trying to avoid the game of scoring rhetorical points against people I disagree with by slapping some hoary heresy label on them. Call it the polemical label slapdown. “Aha! Jones is a Sabellian!” Now Jones’s doctrine may have something in common with the historical Sabellius, or with later doctrines denounced using that name. But if he’s wrong, it’s just lazy to point out that he’s out of the mainstream. Sometimes, outsiders are correct! And, of course, so are mainstreamers. The question is: is Jones’s claim true?
The polemical label slapdown is more than lazy, though. It’s way of lumping your opponents together so you can heap scorn on them whilst ignoring important differences between them. It’s sort of like Rush Limbaugh calling Hilary Clinton, Chairman Mao, and Michael Moore “communists”. As I’ve pointed out, a lot of different views go by the name “Sabellian” or “Monarchian” or “modalism” (used in the traditional heresy-labelling way). Same thing with the term “Arian”; often, the term is slapped on any theology that posits any sort of priority or difference among members of the Trinity. This is simply confused and confusing. I also think there’s also something inherently disrespectful about it.
Moreover, we philosophers who work on 17th and 18th century philosophy have seen this brand of silliness before. How much ink has been spilled over the burning question: Was John Locke a “Socinian”? And how many people innaccurately denounced Hobbes and Spinoza as “atheists”? (They were in fact materialistic theist and pantheist, respectively.)
It isn’t that labels are somehow bad. The point of labelling is to accurately classify. The point of that is to understand. The point of that is to evalutate reasons for and against. The point of that is to believe what is true, and to avoid believing what is false. OK, that’s enough platitudes for now.
In sum, we’re philosophizing here, not conducting some kind of Spanish Inquisition.
Christology is important because Jesus said it was. More specifically, he knew the obvious danger was ultimately people who didn’t understand who he was (which precedes believing), would not be obedient to the gospel.
Your view on Oneness and Trinity does affect how you treat baptism. This is not a new argument, but a rather important one.
When looking at how we should understand or view Christ IT MUST BE FROM A OUTCOME BASED ANALYSIS, rather than a reconstructive. What the disciples ultimately did reveals what they believed and would be logically deduced by all, unless we are hampered with a directive that forces us to view the Godhead in a polytheistic manner.
I use polytheistic because of the insistence by the promulgators of this doctrine that there are “persons” in the Godhead. aIf this were true, they could only be one in fellowship or unity. But Jesus makes a point to declare a different kind of oneness with the father. At least twice he states emphatically to people he was speaking with, seeing him was seeing the father. He also said that the father dwelt in him and he in the father.
One might say, if there is one, why does he use these terms to describe himself. Well, there could be no other way to describe the redemptive work that he undertook without showing his involvement in the process without causing an inability for us to comprehend.
The outcome analysis has to take pre-eminence because at some point our salvific must mirror the experience of the early church as Paul declared in Galatians, there was no other doctrine for salvation.
Irregardless of what the State run Religion the Catholic church declares to be the order of the day, if it doesn’t match the word of God, they have become as irrelevant to Christianity as the Pharasee in Jesus’ day to the Law of Moses as they teach for doctrine the commandments of men. Unfortunately, for so called protestant church that follow the same seed dogma, they are trapped seeing a trinity because there creeds must be adhered to before they open the word. Let God be true and every man a Liar!!!!!
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Hi Nelson,
Thanks for the comment. Re: Peter – are you talking about the transfiguration incident? What does that have to do with the Trinity or modalism?
I guess I see what you’re thinking with Acts 2:38. It refers to getting baptized “in the name of Jesus”, and I guess you’re trying to harmonize that with the famous baptismal statement in the Great Commission, right? Can see why one needn’t take Peter to be calling the Trinity “Jesus Christ” in that verse? I think, only UPCI interpreters do, of all interpreters.
Apostle peter had to be the biggest Modalist. First: He was rebuked by the Father when he wanted to build three tabernacles (only one Temple has or ever be needed). Second: Luke described peter as being full of the Holy Ghost when he gave “the trinity” the name Jesus Christ (acts2:38)
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