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In this episode, biblical unitarian author Sir Anthony Buzzard dialogues with leading scholar of early Christianity Dr. Larry Hurtado. (This happened in October of 2016 and was posted on the Restoration Fellowship YouTube channel.) I’ve edited the audio for clarity and length, and I jump in a few times with observations about the views of each, and even with a few objections.
I focus particularly on what they think the correct response is, based on the New Testament, to arguments like these:
- According to the NT, we should worship Jesus.
- According to the NT, we should only worship God.
- Therefore, according to the NT Jesus just is God (and vice-versa).
- According to the NT, we should worship Jesus.
- According to the NT, we should only someone who is essentially divine.
- Therefore, according to the NT Jesus is essentially divine.
Each begins with a summary of their life’s work in theology and related fields, so if you’re not familiar with either, the first portion of this gives you a good entry into their histories, interests, publications, and views.
Links for this episode:
- Anthony Buzzard hosts Dr. Larry Hurtado: God, Jesus & the Trinity
- Restoration Fellowship YouTube channel
- podcast 45 – Sir Anthony Buzzard on Christian mistakes
- podcast 44 – The Spiritual Journey of Sir Anthony Buzzard
- podcast 194 – God: One Person or Three? Sanders vs. Buzzard debate
- Larry Hurtado’s blog
- podcast 150 – Dr. Larry Hurtado’s Destroyer of the gods – Part 2
- podcast 149 – Dr. Larry Hurtado’s Destroyer of the gods – Part 1
- podcast 100 – Dr. Larry Hurtado on God in New Testament Theology
- podcast 99 – Dr. Larry Hurtado on early high christology
- Larry Hurtado on early Christians’ worship of Jesus
- Hurtado on the early worship of Jesus
- Worship of Jesus, Worship of God, and the Fulfillment Fallacy
- podcast 189 – The unfinished business of the Reformation
- Properties
- Essential vs. Accidental Properties
- Substance
- Trinity
- Incarnation
- This week’s thinking music is “Shuttleworth (Interval)” by Marco Trovatello.
Yup, great discussion – I think I had already heard it but even better revisited with Dale. This is how I see the discussion needing to progress:
Buzzard’s Psalm-110-driven programme fails, in my view, to integrate quite what the magnitude of what it would have meant for Greek-speaking Jews to perceive of their unexpectedly killed-then-exalted Messiah conferred Kyrios-ship, when this was not just a title but the Name of the Israelite deity. In response, caution needs to be shown because, with just one exception NT exception, Jesus’ lordship is not affirmed stripped of its Greek article – it is “arthrous”.
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