Dale Tuggy

Dale Tuggy is Professor of Philosophy at the State University of New York at Fredonia, where he teaches courses in analytic theology, philosophy of religion, religious studies, and the history of philosophy.

2 Comments

  1. Miguel de Servet
    September 22, 2015 @ 7:08 am

    My talk is called “Tertullian the unitarian“. Though he’s the first on record to use the Latin word trinitas, I show that he was in fact a sort of unitarian, a kind I have elsewhere called “subordinationist.”

    I must pay a special vote thanks to Greg for exposing the bluff whereby “subordinationism” would be “sort of unitarian” and not, as it is (historically and conceptually) a step towards the full-fledged doectrine of the “trinity” (“co-equal, co-eternal, tri-personal”) as concocted by the Cappadocian scoundrels towards the end of the 4th century, as a “mysterian” political compromise between the Nicene and the Arians.

    Here is, BTW, the link to the text from which Greg provided his quotation:

    CCEL > ANF03. Latin Christianity: Its Founder, Tertullian > Anti-Marcion > Against Praxeas > Chapter III (Sundry Popular Fears and Prejudices. The Doctrine of the Trinity in Unity Rescued from These Misapprehensions)

  2. GregLogan25
    September 21, 2015 @ 8:17 pm

    Admittedly, I have not read your paper – but I found the premise a bit challenging on the surface in the light of the following in Adv Praxeas –

    Perhaps this is better followed up on the FB Socinian page in which more people will be exposed?

    Chapter III.-Sundry
    Popular Fears and Prejudices. The Doctrine of the Trinity in Unity Rescued from
    These Misapprehensions.

    The simple, indeed, (I will not call them unwise
    and unlearned, ) who always constitute the majority of believers, are startled
    at the dispensation25 (of the Three in One), on the ground that their very rule of faith
    withdraws them from the world’s plurality of gods to the one only true God; not
    understanding that, although He is the one only God, He must yet be believed in
    with His own oi0konomi/a. The numerical order and
    distribution of the Trinity they assume to be a division of the Unity; whereas
    the Unity which derives the Trinity out of its own self is so far from being
    destroyed, that it is actually supported by it. They are constantly throwing
    out against us that we are preachers of two gods and three gods, while they
    take to themselves pre-eminently the credit of being worshippers of the One
    God; just as if the Unity itself with irrational deductions did not produce
    heresy, and the Trinity rationally considered constitute the truth. We, say
    they, maintain the Monarchy (or, sole government of
    God).26 And so, as far as the sound goes, do even Latins (and ignorant
    ones too) pronounce the word in such a way that you would suppose their
    understanding of the monarxi/a (or Monarchy) was as complete as their pronunciation
    of the term. Well, then Latins take pains to pronounce the monarxi/a (or Monarchy), while Greeks
    actually refuse to understand the oi0konomi/a, or Dispensation (of the
    Three in One). As for myself, however, if I have gleaned any knowledge of
    either language, I am sure that monarxi/a (or Monarchy) has no other
    meaning than single and individual27 rule; but for all that, this monarchy does not, because it is the
    government of one, preclude him whose government it is, either from having a
    son, or from having made himself actually a son to himself,28 or from ministering his own monarchy by whatever agents he will.