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Arius and Athanasius, part 1 — How is the Son produced? (JT)

Even though it should be obvious from our three faces, we like to carry around this large diagram, just to be clear.
Even though it should be obvious from our three faces, we like to carry around this large diagram, just to be clear.

This series is extracted from a paper I delivered at the APA in Chicago last month. I’ve basically just cut up the paper into smaller chunks.

As we all know, the doctrine of the Trinity states that God is three persons: the Father, Son, and Spirit. Further, two of these persons, the Son and the Spirit, are produced. According to both East and West, the Son is produced by the Father, but the East holds that the Spirit is also produced by the Father, while the West holds that the Spirit is produced by the Father and Son together. But that’s by the by. The point is that some of the divine persons are produced.

The question that interests me is this: how, exactly, does one divine person produce another? In this series, I want to look at two 4th century attempts to explain how the Father produces the Son: that of Arius, and that of Athanasius.

As is well known, Arius was a priest in Alexandria during the early decades of the 4th century, and he preached that the Father creates the Son out of nothing (ex nihilo). Arius’ teaching was quickly absorbed in a controversy that was spreading all over the Eastern Roman Empire, and eventually the Council of Nicea met in 325 CE to settle the dispute.

For a variety of complicated reasons, Nicea didn’t really solve the problem, and debate continued throughout the remainder of the century. In the middle of the 4th century, Athanasius emerged as one of the most outspoken opponents of Arius’ teaching. According to Athanasius, the Son is not created out of nothing. Rather, he is begotten by the Father; God’s Son is a real son, produced in much the same way that human sons are begotten by their fathers.

I want to try to explicate the theories of Arius and Athanasius with as much philosophical precision as I can. Arius and Athanasius are not always consistent, and they frequently speak in rather vague ways, so the precise details of their claims are not always clear. But nevertheless, I will try to extract from each author as clear a theory as I can.

Now, certain specialists (and non-specialists) might find my approach inappropriate. They might say that I am using philosophical tools and distinctions that are too modern, or too rigorous, or too whatever. After all, Arius and Athanasius were not 20th century analytic philosophers, and so we need to attend to their style and concerns, not our own, if we want to do them justice.

There may be something to this, but I should say at the outset that I do not mean to provide an account of Arius and Athanasius that completely and fully represents their views and concerns in all their historical detail. My purpose here is to look at their writings and extract theories that are philosophically interesting. In doing so, I hope to highlight certain issues that are important for any account of how one divine person produces another.

Next time, we’ll get into the details of ‘creating something from nothing’.

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4 thoughts on “Arius and Athanasius, part 1 — How is the Son produced? (JT)”

  1. What is the begetting of the Son?

    Begetting ( present participle of the verb “beget”) – To procreate an offspring.

    To beget is to produce someone to have one’s nature.

    The purpose of begetting is to pass on genome ( whole nature) to the offspring.

    Elements of Divine Begetting
    1) Male ( John 1:14,18)
    4) Womb ( Ps. 110:3, John 1:18)
    5) Divine nature (John 1:1,18)

    Elements of Human Begetting

    1) Male
    2) Female
    3) Intercourse
    4) Womb
    5) Human nature (genome)

    As we can clearly see, the divine begetting is an inscrutable mystery because there is no Biblical information about How the Father produced the Son.

    How is the Son, Jesus Christ, begotten from the Father?

    Anyway, the ‘how’ of the divine begetting is not what’s important but rather, what’s important is its substance which is co-equality of the Father and the Son in one nature.

    The Scriptures only speaks of an analogy from psychology in regards to the Son’s begetting from the Father.

    + Word from Mind ( Psalm 45:1, John 1:1,14,18)

    + Wisdom from Mind ( Proverbs 8:22, John 1:1,14,18).

    The Mind of God the Father eternally exists as rational and wise.Therefore, the Son of God the Father eternally exists.

    Only begotten from the Father (Psalm 109:3, John 1:14).

    The psychological analogy fails to explain how the Son ( a person) is produced by the Father ( a person). The psychological analogy only shows that the production is necessary and eternally exists.In fact, this analogy has its own inscrutable mystery too because we do not know How God produced both Word and Wisdom from His mind without a beginning of its existence.

    Produced not from nothing but from the Father

    + Word = produced ( Ps. 45:1 LXX)

    + Wisdom = produced ( Prov. 8:22 LXX)

    + Son = produced ( John 1:14)

    Eternal ( Without beginning or ending)

    Word = eternal ( John 1:1)

    Wisdom = eternal ( 1 Timothy 1:17)

    Son = eternal ( Micah 5:2, John 1:1,18, Colossians 2:9)

    The Scriptures do not reveal how these were produced. The fact that these are eternally existent and simultaneously productions of God, is a mind blowing reality.

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  3. Ha ha, yeah, it is a strong statement, isn’t it? I myself think Athanasius does, in fact, take the analogy seriously, but feel free to bring this up again when we get to the Athanasius posts. Maybe we can get some interesting discussion going about it.

  4. Rather, he is begotten by the Father; God’s Son is a real son, produced in much the same way that human sons are begotten by their fathers.

    Really? 🙂

    I agree that Athanasius wants to draw an analogy. But that statement strikes me as way too strong!

    Anyway, I look forward to the rest of your posts in this series.

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