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In this second part of my conversation with Canadian apologist Dale Glover, we continue to discuss Dr. Craig’s views on the Trinity. Mr. Glover is sympathetic to “Trinity monotheism,” but I am against it for biblical and philosophical reasons. Our topics include:
- Dr. Craig’s philosophical anti-unitarian argument (taken from Swinburne)
- progressive revelation and how this relates to Craig’s Trinity theory
- my argument that if we assert that Jesus is essentially omniscient, this would make him a liar – even if a lot of his knowledge is subconscious
- how “Trinity Monotheism” divides the divine attributes between the Trinity and the Persons, and its controversial assertion of property borrowing
- Dr. Craig’s claim that the “soul” which is God has three mental and volitional faculties sufficient for being a self – and yet that soul which is God is not a self
- how Craig’s theory differs from Constitution Trinitarianism
- how Craig’s theory requires the controversial claim that there are two ways to be divine: by being a god, and by being a part of a god – what Dr. Daniel Howard-Snyder calls the “diminished divinity problem”
- the clash between Christian traditions and Craig’s view that God is not a self/person, and how this relates to worship
- why I think there is strong evidence against the claim that the New Testament authors don’t believe in a triune God
Thanks to Dale Glover for a good conversation!
Links for this episode:
- Philosophical Foundations for a Christian Worldview
- Dr. Craig’s podcast Reasonable Faith
- podcast 230 – The Failure of Fashionable Antiunitarian Arguments
- podcast 248 – How Trinity theories conflict with the Bible
- One God Report podcast: Evolution of the Trinity, Interview with Dr. Dale Tuggy, part 1
- One God Report podcast: Evolution of the Trinity, Interview with Dr. Dale Tuggy, part 2
- Daniel Howard-Snyder
- “Trinity,” Routledge Encyclopedia of Philosophy
- Eng and Chang
- the interesting sisters I mention
- Leftow’s one-self Trinity theory
- old trinities posts on “Trinity monotheism”
- Craig’s kalam cosmological argument for the existence of God
- the modal ontological argument for the existence of God
- Matthew 24:36; Mark 13:32; Mark 14:32-42; Jude 1:3; John 17:1-3; 1 Corinthians 8:4-6;
- podcast 189 – The unfinished business of the Reformation
- podcast 271 – Does your Trinity theory require relative identity?
- “Constitution Trinitarianism: An Appraisal”
- Craig: how Nicene orthodoxy rules out the full deity of Christ
- podcast 286 – Is the Trinity Essential? – Three Views
- This week’s thinking music is “Polybear” by Little Glass Men.
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