In this episode of the Restitutio Podcast, pastor Sean Finnegan interviews New Testament scholar and host of The Biblical Unitarian Podcast Dr. Dustin Smith about my recent debate, focusing on White’s arguments that “Jesus is Yahweh.” In my mind this was a “deity of Christ” debate, not a trinitarian-unitarian debate. But Finnegan and Smith treat it more as the latter, and make a lot of interesting points. Dr. Smith gives his own, different take on the passages White appealed to. About Smith’s reading of Hebrews 1:10-12 (see also here), this is the general sort of reading I mentioned in the cross-examination when White asked me if it would refute my position that Jesus is not Yahweh if Hebrews 1:10-12 were (only) about the Son.
By the way, if you haven’t seen this recent debate below, you’re missing on what is to my mind the best trinitarian-unitarian debate. Smith is the standout here, and his team with pastor Will Barlow is the clear winner. The debate question is the same.
This was a good debate. I enjoyed hearing several people review it and want to encourage you to possibly have a guy on your podcast in the future. His YouTube channel is “Biblical Binitarian” and his name is Mario. He reviewed the debate and also has some interesting points for listeners to consider.
The easiest way to settle whether Yeshua is Yahweh, is not to make the trinity the subject of the debate, but rather the virgin birth, which is quite easily refutable. Without the virgin birth, there is no trinity. People who believe in the trinity will necessarily have to reconsider their study methods. In truth, by assigning the deity to Yeshua ben Yosef, one is actually diminishing the great miracles he did. It’s not a big deal to imagine God doing all those miracles, but a man born like you and me? Your time would be better spent to understand the source of righteousness, then you would know Yeshua ben Yosef’s strength, which is available to us as well. Additionally, to settle the trinity debate, in Revelations 3:12, Yeshua ben Yosef, in his highest attainable position, four times in one verse, refers to his God. It’s enough if we believe in the same God that Yeshua ben Yosef believed in!
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