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podcast 320 – Thoughts on my debate with Rogers about Mark – Part 2 – interpretive fails

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In this episode, my final thoughts on my recent debate with apologist Anthony Rogers about whether Mark teaches that Jesus is the one true God (part 1, part 2). Topics include:

  • the fulfillment fallacy
  • how New Testament authors use the Old Testament
  • a serious misreading of Psalm 110 which confuses together the two characters
  • the idea of multiple meanings and how this relates to divine inspiration
  • the original meanings and contexts of Psalm 45 and Psalm 2
  • Matthew 2:15 as a fulfillment of Hosea 11:1
  • Mark’s and Luke’s portrayals of Jesus as limited in knowledge and Rogers’s attempts to re-interpret these passages so as to preserve or even imply Jesus’s omniscience
  • what many apologists don’t understand about early Christian theologies and John 1
  • Irenaeus‘s view that Jesus knew less than God
  • how Rogers anachronistically misunderstands what Novatian teaches about Jesus and God
  • Rogers’s “I know Greek!” rhetoric, and what many people don’t know about how language skills relate to interpretive disputes

Links for this episode:

podcast 319 – Thoughts on my debate with Rogers about Mark – Part 1 – culture clash

podcast 318 – Debate with Rogers – Does Mark teach that Jesus is God? – Part 2

podcast 317 – Debate with Rogers – Does Mark teach that Jesus is God? – Part 1

The NET Bible (Hardcover)

Commentary on the New Testament Use of the Old Testament

Three Views on the New Testament Use of the Old Testament

podcast 176 – Photinus of Sirmium

podcast 301 – Dr. Daniel Boyarin on John 1

podcast 298 – Andrews Norton on John 1

podcast 293 – Dr. Jo-Ann Brant on the Gospel According to John – Part 1

podcast 292 – New vs. Old “Beginning” – Two Interpretations of John 1

podcast 291 – From one God to two gods to three “Gods” – John 1 and early Christian theologies

podcast 290 – Is the “Socinian” interpretation of John 1 correct? A conversation with Carlos.

podcast 289 – “Socinian” approaches to John 1 – Part 2

podcast 288 – “Socinian” approaches to John 1 – Part 1

podcast 287 – Dr. Andrew Perry on John 1

posts on Irenaeus

Irenaeus, Against Heresies Book 5

Origen on the Challenge to Jesus is God Apologists

Novatian, The Trinity, The Spectacles, Jewish Foods, In Praise of Purity, Letters (older, free translation of On the Trinity)

Matthew 1:23; Isaiah 7; Psalm 110; Psalm 45:6-7; Hebrews 1:8-9; Matthew 2:15; Hosea 11:1; Mark 1; Mark 13:32; Mark 5:NN; Luke 8:42-48; Matthew 9:18-22; Matthew 9:8; Deuteronomy 34.

This week’s thinking music is “The Magic Bullet” by Little Glass Men.

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